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Angus Batey's avatar

Not really a substantive contribution to this (excellent, interesting, informed, and therefore much appreciated) discussion, rather an aside that was prompted by it.

In 1993, at the height of the controversy generated by the Body Count record Cop Killer, I interviewed Ice-T. I can't remember exactly how and why it came up, but he essayed a comparison between rappers and country artists as follows:

"[Hip-hop] has a real strong parallel to any traditional music, but especially Country & Western. You might laugh, but think about it! They sing about their neighbourhood, they wear jeans and hats when they go to the Grammys* and they sell millions of records but nobody knows who buys 'em. The way we sing about our urban environment they sing about their rural environment. I mean, listen to Johnny Cash! He sings, 'I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die'. That's a Geto Boys lyric! Bushwick Bill would do that same thing! So there's a lot of similarities, we just do it to different beats. They don't really make an effort to get outsiders listening. And that's exactly the same with rap, but the only thing is now you got a lot of outsiders listenin' to rap and criticizing the music. Country & Western music is more in tune to what the United States is – we're from a different neighbourhood."

(* somewhere else in the conversation he'd talked about how rappers turned up for the Grammys in baseball hats and sneakers whereas more or less all the other male attendees were in tuxedos)

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Lauren Vorona's avatar

I loved this discussion, book club has been fun. This book was especially fascinating I’ve been trying to get everyone to read it

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